No matter how good your pheromones are, there are always cases where someone isn’t responding to them, or stops responding after it worked great (initially).
So everything is going great – a beautiful woman has caught your eye.
You’ve painstakingly put together a killer pheromone product or combo.
You’re excited about the results you’re going to get…
… and when it comes to the “moment of truth”…
It doesn’t work like it’s supposed to.
What went wrong?
In a moment, I’ll cover some interesting stuff I’ve learned over years of using pheromones…
Including why and how women stop responding to certain mixes (and how you can stop that from happening).
Anyway, let’s get started.
Reason #1: Weak game and/or social skills
I hate to say it, but it has to be said…
A LOT of people use pheromones to “cover up” a lack of social skills and their inability to communicate with women effectively.
… and what “game” really means, is being a product that’s “in demand”…
For example, you could be a guy that’s never had much success with women, and fall down a loser mindset (much like the MGTOW community, and up blaming all your problems on other people and circumstances)…
Or you could do your research, and find out what real “ladies men” use that makes them seem so different to the other guys.
One of the best ways is to learn how to talk to women in an emotional way to get them to “invest” in you.
And I believe it’s one of the MAIN reasons why people fail to get the results they want. They often see pheromones as something like “real-life love potions“, and romantic or sexual spray on magic.
Like I mention countless times on the site, using pheromones are powerful, but they’re not going to do all the work.
It’s still your job to ensure that the women you’re with feel comfortable in your presence, that you can communicate on more than just “friendly” terms (you have to move the conversation to a more personal level), you still have to break the touch barrier and escalate.
The pheromones only “grease the slide” and make the interactions significantly more easy…
… a touch can send a woman reeling, a flirty remark can make them blush, and something as simple as a compliment can be taken with much more “weight”.
If you would like to develop HIGH VALUE social skills (such as personal magnetism), then be sure to get the Secret Alchemy Of Personal Magnetism.
Reason #2: The point of “diminishing returns”
The point of diminishing returns means eventually, you will work harder for less return on your investment…
It’s like going to the gym – for the first 1-2 years you can make outstanding progress and completely transform your body.
But years 3, 4 and onwards, it becomes more and more difficult to continue putting on muscle.
Lifting an extra 5 lb’s will take a lot more effort than adding 5 lb when you’re just starting out.
You can tell this is happening when a pheromone product stops having the same amount of “impact” over time.
It seems to become less and less effective as the target gets accustomed to the pheromone signature.
How do you solve this?
It’s simple – either change up your pheromone signature, or replace it with another one.
I have noticed this only over long term usage of fallout/romantic type products.
However, giving it a “refresh” with a different product, or changing my combos slightly can move the needle quite significantly…
In fact, the “diminishing returns” starts to look a LOT more like this:
She will go from expecting a certain signature, to being slightly confused about why she feels a bit different about you.
It is INTERESTING, and unexpected – 2 things that create excitement for women… and if you read the article, a key element in creating the fallout effect.
Reason #3: The woman in question is unavailable
I get emails from guys all the time wondering how they can slide their way into someone elses relationship.
This one kind of irks me…
Because first of all, a woman that will either cheat, or leave their partner for you, will do the same thing to YOU down the road.
And secondly… WHY?
MOST women aren’t so easily swayed to cheating or leaving their current partners, especially if they’re already happy.
The problem with using pheromones on this type of target is that it will still have effects…
Women may flirt with you more, see you in a “romantic” way, or even be slightly intimate with details that they share with you.
But at the same time, it will be far more difficult to persuade a woman who is already taken.
Is it possible? Yes. Is it worth it? No.
This will be an uphill battle, and at the end you might still end up with nothing – if you value your time, then let it go and find someone else to expose your pheromones on.
Reason #4: She is emotionally invested in someone else
This one is a lot easier to solve. If she’s not in a relationship, then it’s a LOT easier to win her over.
However, competition can be a pesky problem, but not entirely impossible if you know what you’re doing…
Pheromones will give you a massive advantage over people who have no idea what they even are, but it still takes effort to get their maximum effects.
And if you’re interested in a woman who is interested in someone else, one of the best ways to get her is to feel that way ONLY when she’s with you.
This is why there is so much variation in the amount of time it takes to create an emotional imprint/fallout effect.
Over time, she will begin to associate those same (or even stronger) emotions of affection, crushiness, or attachment to you.
You might feel that a product has stopped working, but it’s really doing some work underneath the surface – don’t quit too soon.
Reason #5: Emotional maturity or immaturity of the women in question
I’ve also recently noticed that there is a very interesting correlation between the emotional maturity of targets and products that contain androstadienone – known for creating emotional attachment, feelings of affection, and much more.
Younger women in their 20’s can seem to be a little “put off” by it, because they’re not looking for a relationship and might take those feelings too seriously.
This results in avoiding you sometimes, but then feeling the need to “reinsert” themselves into your life soon after.
Perhaps they start to miss you more, or miss that feeling of being uplifted/comforted/content/affection when you’re nearby.
Emotionally immature women tend to be attracted to products that DON’T contain androstadienone, such as XiSt and Nude (with Grail of Affection being an exception – see the caption by the image)…
However, using these products to initially get your hooks into them, and then switching to androstadienone based mixes seems to work significantly better.
This is still under testing, but I feel it deserves a mention in this article because most of us are into women in their 20’s to 30’s.
If you are trying to get a woman into a relationship, take into account her personal attributes, and test a few different products to see what she reacts to most strongly.
The 2 main things you should figure out are:
- Whether she reacts to aggressive, alpha, or sexual signatures
- Whether she responds best to comfort, romantic type signatures
And then from there, choose your products accordingly. All of this is categorized in the best pheromones for men article.
Reason #6: You’re not being “congruent” with the pheromone signature
Another core reason why pheromones aren’t having the effect you want, is because you simply don’t “match” the pheromone signature of the product you’re wearing.
Many fail to give products an adjustment time – the amount of time it takes for your mind and body to process, and ADOPT the signature as it’s own.
Some products like Bad Wolf, Alfa Maschio, or even “fallout” type products like Grail Of Affection and Casanova require the user to “drive” the products.
Although “self effects” can go a long way to creating the type of behavior you need to drive the products, it’s important that you try to step into the metaphorical “shoes” too.
So many people have difficulty getting products like Aqua Vitae to work, because they do not have the right type of game.
Sure, the self effects may give you a significant confidence boost, but if you do not step up to women, flirt, and escalate with no fear, then the attraction it generates can slip away very quickly.
When you’re not being congruent, it can either take a week to a month before you start seeing it’s true power.
Some products work instantly with no learning curve – but if you feel a great product is not working then it’s most likely an issue with congruence.
Hang in there and let the pheromones mold your personality into the kind of person you need to be.
Reason #7: Not having an effective product for your specific target
As I mentioned in reason #5, emotional maturity may play a part in how effective a certain product might work on women – in that case, androstadienone.
The more mature a woman is, the more she will see it as a highly attractive and emotional pheromone, and develop an attachment to you.
You will see a better spectrum of effects from different types of pheromones, depending on the woman you’re targeting.
And it’s not just androstadienone either – pheromones like androstenone and androsterone are key components of most attraction pheromone products.
At the same time, products that are heavy on these types of ingredients can come off quite seriously and be somewhat intimidating.
It is your job to use them responsibly, and if you feel that a target may feel overwhelmed by your presence then it’s best to switch products – OR add a social type product to help tone it down.
There have been cases where women seem to respond to a more “sexual attraction” mix, rather than romance/fallout type mixes, and vice-versa.
Reason #8: You’re “burnt out” from using pheromones and it’s not fun anymore
Believe it or not, this has happened to me in the past where I was using pheromones almost daily, rather than saving them for special occasions.
I remember it clearly – the “magic” of using pheromones was gone – and everything simply became a “test” to see what would happen if I used this or that.
And let me tell you — it is definitely not fun.
I felt that pheromones were becoming somehow less and less effective for me, when I was really just getting slack at picking up “hits”, and not getting the self effects I was used to.
Pheromone attraction had lost its sheen.
After taking this “pheromone cleanse”, I felt a whole lot better about myself, like the mental/emotional cloud was gone.
My mindset felt clean and clear, and when I (slowly) started using pheromones again, I suddenly realized how effective they really were.
- Take time off pheromones for a few weeks
- Take a vitamin B supplement and take care of your mind and body
- Drink lots of water and eat healthier
- Do everything I outline in this article
The self effects were back, and I realized how unbelievable some of the hits really were – whereas they just became part of a daily “norm” when I was burnt out.
I still take breaks every now and then to ensure I stay sharp while testing pheromones.
As it stands, pheromones are still in their early stages, and things have only really kicked off in the last 5 years.
We still have a lot to learn, and I can only imagine how much more powerful and complex they’ll get in the near future.
With that said, the more complex a pheromone product is, the more important it is to understand how it works… this ensures that you’ll always get something close to the results you need – especially when it comes to women.
And if we’re being honest, that’s about 90% of the reason we even ended up in this cool little underground world.
As long as you don’t fall into the trap of trying to cover up “holes” where you lack in your natural personality, then pheromones will be a very powerful addition to your life.
Use the pheromones wisely and reap the rewards
Thank you for reading,
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I live In Queensland Australia. I’m a guy in my early 50″s and am wondering what mones you would suggest for a bloke like me to attract women 45yo plus and pre and post menopausal. This situation could be for one night stands or romantic attraction. I’d like to buy some products to reflect these goals and you could help me to make my decision
I would be most appreciative of your input.
Due to your age, you will well with products that are designed for sexual attraction – I’ve recommended many readers products who are in the same age range as you with great results. I would highly recommend checking out Dirty Primitive (it’s on the page), Alfa Maschio, . Products with status like APi by PheromoneXS, and Alpha Treasures (read review on this page) will also work very well. Reason being that they are well suited to older gentleman and are well received by women you are targeting. The “high value”/vibe will work well in your favor.
If you are after more romantic relationship type products, you can also read about them in the article I linked — combining them with the attraction/status products is highly recommended. If there’s anything else I can help you with just drop a comment 🙂
Do you notice that there are 8 reason here? And two #5
Thanks for the heads up! Fixing it now — I thought there was something wrong with it but it went right under my nose lol.
Hey joe, as you know I’m a great fan of your website/blog… I’m 45, can I use dirty primitive while going to the gym?..
Hi Raymond, definitely! Dirty Primitive is great for an energy kick and to get you motivated to hit the gym 🙂
I live in France i’m 28 i want buy LIIk v2 + glace pheromone for attracted girls 20-30 years is it all right for me ?
Yes they are both excellent products for women in that age range, although you might not really need the Glace as the L2K already has some Glace components in it already.
Hi! I am fairly new to the topic of pheromones, having only once used a product back in 1999. This product was called ‘Yes! Pheromone Cologne”. Whether the cologne worked or not I cannot say, but I can only comment on the experience. I was approximately 24 at the time, and had used the cologne about 9 or 10 times. On one of those occasions I went out with a group of friends to a restaurant/bar. Initially I was a little conscious of using the cologne and actually felt a little embarrassed or stupid for thinking that a product supposedly containing pheromones could have any effect on women.
On this occasion, everything seemed ‘normal’ until about an hour or so, having received and well into our meals. It turns out mine was undercooked (steak) and so I politely asked the waitress if she could mention this to the chef. Maybe it was just me but I noticed she got very ‘close’ as I was mentioning the problem, and when she answered back she would almost whisper it into my ear, despite the fact that the room was not overly noisy and I would have heard her talking perfectly normal. She came back briefly with a well cooked meal and a very large glass of beer. I kindly said to her ‘that’s ok the beer is not necessary’ but she insisted I have it, telling me it is on the house.
But the funny thing was in the way she said it, to quote her words ‘have the beer, it’s from me’. I kind of felt awkward saying no again so I just accepted it. Then a little while later after the plates had been cleared I decided to go to the toilet downstairs (we were on the second floor). As I was walking down the stairs the waitress I spoke to earlier happens to be walking past in the opposite direction and as I pass her she literally grabs me by the arm and kind of pulls me towards her but she didn’t seem aggressive in any way just kind of really focused on me, looking directly at my eyes (I was feeling so awkward at this point) and she says something along the lines of ‘hey dessert is going to be ready soon’. Inside I was like wtf you need to pull me towards you to tell me that?
But yeah the whole experience was just so intense and not something I had experienced before. The funny thing was that by this second ‘contact’ she almost seemed inebriated but clearly she wasn’t, I would imagine working in her role that would be a big no-no, and the fact that she was indifferent to everyone else, that’s what made it all weird. I must admit the cologne had a very pleasant odor and was occasionally given this comment by other females.
Since then I have always been intrigued by the effect of pheromones and have been searching for something that would actually produce results similar to the one I have mentioned above, IF the experience above had anything to do with this product at all. I am not saying it did, in fact I am skeptical but the experience was quite out of the ordinary for me up to that point and probably why I can still remember it so vividly to this day.
Assuming that the above product is not legitimate, could you recommend something that might product a similar effect? Sorry for the long message but I felt it was necessary to explain in detail what I was after for. I would particularly like something that might generate attraction (initially sexual, maybe later more relationship focused) with younger women, up to the age of 25(ish).
Thanks again for your assistance!
I have responded to you in an email 🙂 Cheers!
Could I get you to send it again? I’m thinking that I may have accidentally hit ‘delete’ to the spam folder earlier without checking it in there.. (habit :P).
Hey man. Great articles I truly enjoy your articles review and information. By the way Liquid Alchemy. Great Shop. I’m glad I found out about them from you man.
What are the best products for sexual attraction for an Indian guy?
Also would suck if pheromones went mainstream. this stuff needs to be kept under the radar.
Most pheromone products will work the same if you are Indian. Indian men can also benefit from using products with more “status” properties, rather than direct sexual (especially if you are targeting Indian women with western qualities). I would look into products like Alfa Maschio and The Hookup. Not overly “out there”, but definitely will grab attention from women.
I love this site, maybe you can help me, My Ex girlfriend I know she still have feelings for me.but she said once that my odor doesn’t attract her (not bad odor just not attractive) and I didn’t get in her party mood. Recently I saw her and we kiss. She was very evasive to have sex with me. Can I recover the relationship ?. We have a road trip planned next week. What Can I do ?.
Sorry about the late reply. If you haven’t already fixed your relationship, I think there is something wrong that is what more than pheromones can fix (which can help, but if you can salvage it some other way, its better to do that first). I would highly recommend that you read my guide about how to get your ex-girlfriend back and start at step 3. This will keep YOU interesting, and keep her interest piqued. If she is being evasive about sex, and it is ONLY that problem, I would recommend a light flirty, and sexual product along the lines of Swoon, EvolveXS, or maybe X22.
If you change to a heavier sexual, things may push her too far and if she is losing sexual interest in you, could lead to a break up. I would start with those first and see how she responds.
I am a 43 yr old Male I am married for 14yrs now to my 39yr old wife our sexlife has been dismal to say the least…nonexistent is a more honest assesment… I have started taking TRT Testim 5mg/5g gel applying 1 time a day early AM after showering…it has been 6weeks now and I am feeling great (btw) my T level was 95 prior…and I have read there is pheromones in the Testim…but I have still had no response from my wife one way or the other…my question(s) are what type of pheromones are in it and is there some type of product I can use in combination with the testim?
Your testosterone levels are only one indicator of your sexual health. The testosterone that is available from topical gels and creams does not have a scent like pheromones because it is absorbed transdermally. When pheromones are produced, they are excreted through the skin and your overall health can influence the way you smell.
So even if you do have higher testosterone as a result of using TRT, I would recommend a sexual type product that might help you. I would definitely recommend something on the “heavy duty” side such as New Pheromone Additive, or SOB. Both are excellent products that create a strong, magnetic, and sexual aura which could kickstart your relationship again.
While changing up your signature slightly can be good, do you feel too radical changes too frequently could also be detrimental? IE if I jump back and forth between a bad boy attraction mix, then a serious status mix, then a romantic relationship mix etc. that it could create distrust and too much of a sense of not being able to “really know” you?
Maybe a standard base product with occasional accent products to subtly change the direction depending on the environment and situation without radically altering the sense of who you are?
Hi Mark, yes, this is a concerning element about using pheromones on women. If you can toy with their emotions, it can be very exciting but also extremely discouraging to women if they feel you’re not being “you” or trying to hide something. Your own observation of using a base product, and then adding other touches to steer it more in a particular direction is good. However, I’d also recommend going with no pheromones occasionally if you are trying to court a women the long way. Courting is much more exciting to me personally, rather than much of what’s out there on the internet with PUA nonsense and other hyped up tricks and techniques.