What exactly should you talk about with women to seduce them? If you still struggle with how to talk to attractive women (or women in general) in a seductive way, this may be the most valuable articles you ever read.
If you’ve been reading my recent emails, you’ll have read by now about the discovery of an old mentor of mine – Player Supreme (or Uncle Supreme) who passed in 2017.
I took a few weeks out to mourn his loss, and have been thinking about all the things I learned from him over the years.
It truly changed my life.
One of the most important skills was about CONVERSATION from his book, 7 Steps To Becoming A Player.
(it will be on sale soon to help cover the costs of archiving and organizing his work).
While you will learn more about him and his work in the near future…
I thought this would be a very timely and excellent choice to truly understand how masters of seduction – PLAYERS – truly think.
Without further ado, here is the lesson:
“One of the strongest traits of a player/seducer/pimp is his ability to use words. Success depends on your ability to stop thinking about what you want from that person and concentrate on what they want and what you can do to help her get it.”
– Player Supreme
Remember the saying, a pimp sells a dream.
He finds out what the woman’s dreams are and convinces her that by joining his ship she can sail away to her dreams.
When you look at spitting your game (conversation) from this perspective, you no longer have to think about what to say to conversate. It becomes a natural process of uncovering her wants and desires.
When you can guide and control the conversation you will gain power over
Disraeli once said “Men govern with words”.
Basic salesmanship psychology tells us that people in general have about 14 needs:
- A sense of power or mastery.
- Ego-gratification, pride or importance.
- Financial success.
- Social or group approval.
- Desire to win or be the first or to excel.
- A sense of belonging or roots.
- Creative expression.
- New Experiences.
- To do something worthwhile.
- Liberty and freedom.
- Self-Esteem, dignity or self-respect.
- Emotional security.
When you’re seducing a woman, when you can show her how to achieve her hidden desires, you will have power over her.
She will follow you and do almost anything for you.
It is your goal during your conversation to find out her dominant needs.
To do this you have to get into her mind to find out what she really wants.
You need to learn exactly what actually makes her, as a person tick.
You need to find the secret motivators that really turn her on.
This is the game at a whole other level.
There are 5 areas or guidelines to concern yourselves with:
- I’ve always said you gotta be genuinely interested in them as a person.
- You gotta be an active listener. Look this phrase up if you don’t know it.
- Encourage the girl to talk about herself. Ask her leading or open ended questions.
- Make your conversation in terms of her interests so that you can find out what she wants. A lot of fools blather on and on about what they want and the girl could care less.
- Make her feel important. Feed her ego.
In questioning or interviewing her you’ve heard of the 5 W’s.
Who, What, When, Where, Why and sometimes How.
Which brings me to the how’s of this topic.
A lot of players are looking for the perfect opening line to start a conversation and I say it doesn’t exist.
As a player you gotta learn to use the situation to your advantage.
I like to start with a compliment.
For example one of my current friends whom I’ve mentioned and used in my example of email seductions.
Some of you will remember how I told her that she was very passionate and sensual, instead of some corny line to start it.
I gave her a compliment that was unique and unusual.
There are so many ways to give a unusual compliment it’s not even funny.
Let’s say that your talking to a girl who is a computer programmer.
Now instead of trying an early c&f which I like to save for later you might say something like:
“you know I’ve always admired how a programmer can make a box do what they want it to do. You mind telling me more about what it is that you do and how you do it?”
Or lets say your talking to a girl who is a branch manager:
“You know Sally, I’ve always wished I knew more about business management. You mind telling me more about your position as a manager and the kind of work that you do?”
What you’ve done is given her a compliment.
You respect her and her intelligence and that you value her as a person.
Then you’re taking control by asking for information.
You guys have heard me say that in a dance two people can’t lead.
Well this also applies to conversations.
One person will be the leader and another will be the follower.
Here is a little known fact that most people don’t know: “Most people are
waiting for someone to tell them what to do”.
If you assume the power at the start the other person will follow you as their leader.
This is where you “be” the player/pimp/seducer/whatever you want to call it. When you step into that role you automatically become the dominant equation in the mix.
If you act like a nobody and put yourself down, others will treat you like
a nobody and put you down too.
But when you come from a position of power, others will treat you that way.
That is what I meant when I told someone recently that I don’t get used as an emotional tampon when I converse with a woman.
Spitting (conversating/conversation) your game on a woman takes no
Just take an active interest in her life story and her needs and you will have ton’s of women at your beck and call literally.
I am walking proof of this.
As you’ve seen my proof in my IM conversation’s and Emails.
Now in this game nobody ever said that you have to deliver the dream.
All it takes is for her to believe that you can.
My point is take your time.
Get into the girls head.
When you do all she will be able to think about is that wonderful man that captivated her so much.
All she will be doing is thinking how to get more of his time and attention…
… and you will be thinking about this as she bends over to suck ya dycks just to keep it going with you!
This is why I love coffee dates…
… because I know where they will lead to…
Can you guys hear the slurping now (and not of coffee drinks)!
- Player “Mutha Fuckin” Supreme
The Nitty Gritty Of Conversation…
Communication is where nerds fall flat on their faces.
Women love to talk.
Go to a lunch area during your lunch break and just observe women in the wilds, doing what they enjoy doing the most.
Don’t bother reading this section if you truly have no interest taking a real and honest interest in a woman as just a human being.
If you’re that selfish and can’t look beyond her pussy to her as a person then don’t bother here!
Women’s social skills and communication skills are more developed than us of the male gender. If you look back at ancient times you can understand why.
While us men were out hunting, they were sitting around the campfires cooking and talking for hours and hours on end.
In fact that is how young women learned how to be women in their days.
The younger girls would sit and listen and learn from the older more
Those conversations made over a fire pit or basket weaving session were probably what could be called the first cosmopolitan type of magazine lessons for many young women.
The point being is that they developed far ahead of us in communication skills.
Look at your own shyness as proof. Yes there are shy girls but that is not what this subject is about.
So in order to get women you must learn to communicate in a way that sells to them.
Now I am not talking about learning how to become a chatter box.
In fact the less you speak the more you get.
If you’re a PUA or have been on the internet for any length of time you have learned that you should ask open ended questions.
That is only one of over 20 other ways that you can hold a conversation with a woman.
I am going to cover some of those other styles of asking questions first. This is because having a good conversation with a woman is all about getting her to talk as much about herself and her life as possible.
Please do not think like one idiot on the sosymp board that this makes you into an emotional tampon.
That is far from the truth.
If you, as a player, want to get into a woman’s head the doorway is through her mind. How do you get into her mind? You ask her questions that causes her to open herself up to you.
As she is opening herself up to you she actually is pulling you deeper into her head.
I have had so many women reveal their deepest secrets within an hour of conversation with me and then tell me how they couldn’t stop thinking about me a day later.
The most powerful tool you can use as a player in this area is to “get her life story.”
Just think, if your talking to a girl who is 18 years old, that means she has had 18 full years of life experiences.
The great majority of those experiences she can still access in her mind.
Women love to talk and their favorite subject is themselves.
Don’t let shyness fool you.
Women love to talk about themselves but often feel it’s impolite.
Everyone loves to talk about themselves but social norms dictate that we be more modest.
So this 18 year old has life experiences that you can dig into and she can share with you.
Whenever I see a guy ask what can I talk about with a girl I know that I am looking at a total fool.
If you take the pussy off that girl and quit stressing over it and treat her just like another guy you wouldn’t have any trouble getting her life story.
Just as you wouldn’t have any trouble asking me questions about my life if we were the same age and met and started to become buds.
Getting her life story involves asking questions.
I am not talking about interrogating a bitch either. You have to learn to be smooth and conversational.
And that is a skill that you must develop in real time on your own with real practice.
So lets get to the first lesson on getting into a woman’s head through asking questions.
There are four basic types of questions:
- General questions.
- Direct questions.
- Indirect questions.
- Open and closed questions.
I am going to teach you over 10 other variations of these four basic types in this lesson. Lets get started.
This is just general information gathering. It occurs where you ask a general question such as “whats your name”, “where are you from”, Direct questions are:
- Easy to understand.
- Are clear in intent and meaning.
- Shows attention and interested.
- And can be used to put pressure on someone.
I like to call these passive questions. You come in from a side ways angle so to speak.
Let me share some of this types criteria:
- Use this to establish rapport with a girl.
- Allows you a soft approach to controlling the conversation.
- Allows her to wonder or makes her engage her mind.
Example: You’re talking to a girl who has shared with a story about her
computers going down at work mysteriously; “I wonder what caused your system to suddenly act up and shut itself down?”
This allows her to engage her mind and think. The more you get her mind engaged the deeper you go into her head.
Control the mind and you control the pussy!
Ok fellas this style allows for you to get her to open up just a bit more on a subject.
It allows for a broad style of dialog to go on.
Let’s say she is talking about her job and business.
Her company is in trouble due to competition.
You would ask a question such as, “Where do you believe the next area of competition is going to come from?” Boom.
You have done several things here:
- You get her to open up
- You show her that you respect her opinion–big points
- You get to test her for her own intelligence also. I hate stupid women!
Ways open questions help you:
- Allows a expansive and inclusive participation in the conversation
from the girl.
- Says tell me more.
- Makes her engage her intelligence and offer a opinion or complete
discussion on a topic.
- Uses a “tell me more” or “tell me the whole story”, type of approach
This type of question is on that direct question path. You want to use it in
conjunction with other types of questions.
You use this type of question when you want specifics such as facts, opinions, details or descriptions of something.
Example: What time did you get in to the office this morning?
Now if you were a boss you would use this as a prelude to talking about
Let me share some ways closed questions help you:
● Offers few or no options to deviate in a conversation.
● Helps you maintain your focus and control in the conversation.
● Will help you get that conversation back on track also.
Example: Sally what time will you be over?
You use this type when you want to filter some of what she is saying to get to the meat of a conversation.
- Use it to exclude broad information and narrow it down to specifics.
- Focuses the conversation.
- Allows you to probe.
Example: Sally, which of the complaints need immediate attention right now?
This type deals with If, What if, Supposing types of questions. It helps you get the woman to expand beyond the subject of your discussion.
Really useful when you disagree but don’t want to show that your disagreeing with her. Very useful in group conversations and debates.
- Helps expand a discussion
- Helps jump off her creativity
- Helps you change the subject as a transition tool
- Also shows your openness to new ideas
Example: What if it were possible for you to leave your job tomorrow with no financial problems what would you do with your time?
This is how you get deep into her head. Use this type to get her to reveal more about herself that she really wants to share.
This type can be open or closed types of questions.
- You can use this to present a challenge to her.
- Helps to stimulate her thoughts.
- Also you can use this type to get a emotional response.
Example: How about using the old pua comment; “Sally are you the kind of
person that I should date and if so why?
You use this type to create a effect. Your not actually looking for a answer
because the answer is in the question itself.
Be careful because this one could backfire on you.
- You can use humor here
- You can use this to accuse
- You can vent out your anger here
Example: “Sally do you want to break up, right now?” When you already know she doesn’t want to.
How about this one: “Are you always looking for trouble?”
Yup, as the name says you ask them a question where they have to reflect on something.
Have her look back on a decision or an event or change in her direction in life.
You want to teach her a lesson with this tool.
- Helps you get deeper into her head.
- Has almost has the ability to hypnotize her.
- Helps you teach her a lesson on the sly without being a tyrant type.
- Helps you transition to another subject.
Example: “If you look back at your history, what stands out as the key factor in your decision to…?”
Now we are getting into some pimpology.
Leading questions are designed to lead a girls mind in a certain direction. That direction always being where you want her to go.
- Helps you get a response that YOU want to hear.
- Used to help you get agreement out of her.
- Reduces the need to debate.
- Helps you lead.
Example: She has objected to sleeping with you that night: “Ok Suzie now you agree that we are both adults – right?” “Yes”.
“Well as adults, don’t you also agree that we can make our own decisions without having to bow down to those old outdated rules that our parents put on us, correct?”
Do you see how this questioning is leading her through a series of yes responses?
Yes even a pause can be used as a question if you use it correctly.
This is a powerful tool for getting that life story to help a girl elaborate on her life.
This type helps you give a natural break between a remark and a follow-up. You can use it to reinforce points also.
Help you or works to:
- Use it after a statement that asks a question so that you can encourage her to respond.
- Works well with body language of raising a eyebrow and leaning in to her.
- Example: “So, let me see if I understand what you just said. You do not give head unless you are dating a guy?”
Then you just pause.
After that you would begin say leading questions to help change her mind or a provocative type of question to get her to elaborate.
Now this style is like letting off a bomb between you two.
The pause is powerful but a silent question is even more so.
It’s only weakness is that you are not giving her a direction to go in, other than her own.
More about this type:
- She could ignore it.
- Good tool for close in discussions when you want more information.
- Allows you to hide your real intentions behind body language.
Examples: She said something that you didn’t like. You frown, raise your
eyebrows and put a quizzical look on your face. Or you shrug your shoulders and raise your hands open slightly.
Basically this type of question involves body language.
One Word Questions
Powerful tool brothers. Remember women are usually in two states.
Either they are feeling good or they are feeling bad.
You should never ask a woman how she is doing but instead ask her how she is feeling.
Now she will either reply one of two ways.
Yes you guessed it. Good or Bad.
Now if it’s bad you can use a one word response along with a facial expression such as “Really?” or “What?”.
Your goal is to get her to elaborate.
These are open questions so she will open up to you. If she is feeling good than take it from there.
- Why, When, Where, How are the key words to use.
- Use silent questioning after that. Just shut up and let her talk.
- Make sure you use the right body language with your question. Don’t be a nerd!
She just said her boss fired her: “Why?” Then let her talk.
She just said her mother yelled at her? “What? Why?” Then let her talk.
Pretty simple to figure out. Your just asking her to clarify something for you.
- When something is unclear then ask this style of questioning.
- If you want to get her opinion on something she said use this style.
- Example: “Suzzie I heard you say…..can you clarify that for me?”
If a discussion starts to go off track and gets a bit heated with her you can use this to move her to another topic.
- Helps you go back over something she said in the past.
- Helps you diffuse potential bad responses and feelings from her
- Gives you total control over the conversation.
Example: “Suzzie I understand what your saying on this issue but let me ask
you about something you said earlier.”
I don’t like to delve too much into negativity but it does has it’s place in helping to position something.
You can also structure it just like a rhetorical question with the answer built into the question.
- Stop a debate.
- Help you dig out her negative reasons on a issue.
- Helps to negatively position an issue.
Example: Lets say she has a fear of turning into her mother or becoming old. Your trying to get her in bed.
You want to position not sleeping with you as what old people would do.
You can sense that she is going to get argumentative over this issue.
She has relayed a lot of negative sharing of information in regards to her mother.
“Suzzie we are the new generation, we don’t need the stupidity of our parents generation or acting like our mothers or fathers would have us do. I believe the last thing you want to do after what you told me earlier is to turn into your mother, now do you?”
There are several tools that you can employ when a woman wants to object to sex.
- Grown folks. This is where I learned to state that we are grown folks not kids and as grown folks we can make up our minds without having to think about how our friends or family will think of our decisions.
- Us Against the World. I like to also use an us against the world or society norms to drive a wedge that she and I are so different and exclusive that the rules do not apply to us. This is because the world has rarely seen two people who share such a immediate and deep connection.
- Against Parents. Here I try to show that by not sleeping with me makes her more like her mother, which is most women’s fear of turning stodgy old things like their mothers.
I am sure if you put your mind to it you too can develop a ton of objection killers:
The secret to being a great conversationalist and how to talk to attractive women is simple…
Now for the nitty gritty of what I am saying.
As a player your job is to sell her good conversation.
It is your best tool to get her life story.
That means find out everything that you can about her since she has been alive. If she is eighteen years of age then she has a full seventeen plus years of life experiences to share with you.
That is the secret to being a great conversationalist.
It is about focusing at least 70% of the attention on her.
Do not let her try to reverse it. It is your job to lead her into opening up to you.
When she does begin to open up then psychologically she is pulling you into her head. She is opening up her mental doors.
During your conversation you want to create a emotional connection.
I like to delve into her feelings not just facts and dates.
That is why you want to use the above conversational tools to get her to open up emotionally to you.
You want to uncover her dreams and yes eighteen year old’s do have them also.
You want to learn about her fantasies, struggles, wildest things she has ever done, what she one day aspires to become… etc., etc.
You want to uncover her.
Get her to reveal herself to you as deeply as possible.
For me this is the fun part of the seduction.
As you uncover her dreams and stuff like where she wants to go in life, or what school she wants to attend, or do after school for work, the more you learn what motivates her.
Find out about any relationships she has had.
Find out how she treated her last boyfriend.
This will teach you how she treats men.
As you uncover who she is as a woman you will learn the keys to motivate her.
You will learn the keys to her inner mind and soul.
All it takes is patience to sit there and take a real and honest interest in her as a person.
I am always saying that you would have no trouble asking me about my life so why make it different for her just because she has a vagina.
A real player does not put her on a pedestal and play himself like that.
Let me say that I don’t give my good dick to any ho out there.
I want to really get to know who she is before I give her the goods.
Notice my psychological stance? I am not a beggar awaiting a meal of pussy.
I am the owner and controller of the sex.
If she is good I give her good sex.
Sex like she has never had before because I will learn her fantasies and do what I call mind fucking on her to pimp her mind out during sex.
Mind fucking is a powerful tool.
Many of my students have learned this truth the hard way.
This tool is the subject of a upcoming book that I finally decided to release!
As you’re gathering this information you can then begin to see who she is as a person.
If you have half an ounce of intelligence in you then you will see how to motivate her to your team.
It’s all about the rapport that you build between her and you.
If your conversation is smooth in her ears and it eases her mind open, then you’re in there.
If you come across as nervous and halting then she will slam it shut like US State workers office at 5pm.
Women love to talk players. Let me state that again. Women LOVE to talk.
This is the secret of gay men.
They have no fear of the pussy and those fruits being like women love to talk also.
That doesn’t mean us straight men can’t learn the art of conversation and keep a woman enthralled to us.
You rarely want to ask a girl how she is doing.
Always ask her how she is feeling.
By talking about how she feels about something you open up that emotional connection pathway.
Sex for most (and remember my advice is about most women, not all women), is emotional.
For them they must establish some form of emotion there before they will open their legs for you and offer you their most prized possession.
Let me finish up this section with the approach.
Often times guys will ask me for opening lines.
Don’t ever call yourself a player and then use a canned opening line.
You the player exists on a higher plane than simple-minded robotic pick-up artist types.
It is your job to create a opener by tapping into your right brain and creating one on the spot.
That means you must learn to use the environment and tapping into the here and now.
I know, I know, it is hard for you robotic types.
Think how I felt trying to fit into your world growing up in the school systems that insisted that I behave like one of the sheep. I did it, so you can do it also.
Learn to observe the environment.
For example if you live in a town that has a river on it and people gather there to watch speed boat racing.
You see a pretty girl who has passed the two second rule.
You step up to her totally plugged into the here and now instead of staying stuck in your heads thinking and worrying about little stupid things.
You would say something like: “How long has the race been going on?” She would answer if she knows or doesn’t.
It does not matter.
“Then you ask her who she is rooting for.” What she says does not matter.
You then would ask her as a natural flow of conversation something like, “Is this your first time watching?”
And off you go in your conversation.
Your next thing is she said it was her first time, you naturally would want to know what bought her down there on that pretty afternoon day.
Do you see how a natural flow is better than trying some lame-ass ,who lies
more than David Bowie or Michael Jackson, type of opener is?
For one thing you are taking advantage of natural conversational styles.
Your flow of conversation is natural instead of robotic.
All it takes is for you to learn to use your brains.
- Player Supreme (AKA Chris Arnett)
Player Supreme offered a perspective on women and dating that had a very HONEST, yet somehow cold and manipulative approach.
This is a much higher level than what any “PUA” pick up artist has ever gone into, and much more high level “street” type game…
It’s not something you’ll learn from a bunch of marketers trying to hype up garbage seduction advice and package it up for $5000 bootcamps and $2000 courses.
In fact, back when PUA was really taking off, I saw many of the PUA and pick up gurus trying to rip off Supreme’s advice and pass it off as their own.
Even though some of this may sound simple and logical, you must read it over and over again until you really understand how to utilize this knowledge.
This is very much like my articles on how to create romantic fallout and what I have been trying to say, but never really had the time to truly dig deep into.
I think it is best left to my original mentor, which I hope I can now pass onto the next group of men.
Thank you for reading.
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